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TOPIC: Large Label Runs

Large Label Runs 8 months 4 weeks ago #5524

Does anybody have experience running large runs of labels like this?

We are currently running his labels on a gerber edge. But its 15+ years old and the quality is starting to get bad. It was nice for the durability but thats no longer going to be an issue, as we can now laminate 54".

We have Signlab 9 rev. 1, a mimaki jv133-130, a mimaki jv150-130 printer, and a mimaki CG-130 FXII cutter.

I have done labels in batches before, (I.E. a 100 labels in a 10x10 grid at a time) on the mimaki's but it only puts registration marks on the 4 corners and then it has a big gap between batches.

My question is, is it possible to only allow 1/8" in between each label/batch but having registration marks at least every row or 2 ( just so we don't run into alignment issues on the cutter.

(I think it used to be called intermittent marks but I don't see it anymore)

And then being able to run a bunch of rows at a time without having to reset the cutter after each row to the next registration marks? (continuous run)

This is a big customer of ours and he is upgrading his business to automated labeling,
so it has to be spaced just right and in big long runs.

He has over 10 different types of products with 10+ different brands in each product.

We have no problem running a whole 54" by 50yd roll at a time just for one type of his decals. I can stack brands so that I can cut them apart later to make rolls.
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Large Label Runs 8 months 3 weeks ago #5531

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I am having the same issues myself. Some days it's great others I'm re-printing. I have a Mimaki JV33-130 with a Graphtec Plotter. Years ago I found (somewhere) intermediate registration marks that were added in to long prints. I haven't been able to locate them again. One of Signlabs downfalls is the lack of good (usable) help in the index. If an error pops up you enter their terminology in the search box there is no help on the subject.
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Large Label Runs 8 months 3 weeks ago #5532

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For the Mimaki Cutters, there are no intermediate marks, only the four corners.

For the Graphtec they have an option of Segmented marks which will put a sideways T shape midway between the corner marks.

To access this in VPM, go to Queue > Properties > Cutter > Registration Marks
Change to the segmented version of whichever you use.
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Large Label Runs 8 months 3 weeks ago #5533

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Much Appreciated. I would have never found that on my own. Just printing now. I'm hoping the cutting will show results. In this particular job the cutting is always off (180" long)

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Large Label Runs 8 months 3 weeks ago #5534

I know Mimaki's are capable of running intermittent marks, as it is included in their Rasterlink software. I just do not know that software very well to import everything into it, and the cutter is hooked to a separate computer.

But, I think I may have solved my issue. It will take some effort to fake the machines out.

My plan is to print the labels like this:

(the registration marks would be all black)

I would just have to figure out how far to back my printer up, so that it would seem as if it was one continuous run to get the correct spacing between the 2 prints. I would also run 10+ batches at a time, to reduce the amount of times I would be backing it up.

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I would cover the (purple) registration marks on the second batch with a piece of vinyl and then cut the first batch. Then uncover the second marks and cover the (black) first and third batch marks, then cut the second batch. Then cover the (purple) second batch marks, cut the third, and repeat as for however many batches I have.


I have been faking out my edge for years like this with it's sprocket feed.
It will be a real trick to keep things strait on the friction feed machines.
Not to mention keeping the print head from clogging/striking/etc.
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Large Label Runs 7 months 4 weeks ago #5569

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Update to Build 24 of VPM and there is now a "Segmented" option on the registration marks for the Mimaki plotters. It might help with what you are doing.
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